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Herger opposes Medicare bill - until it passes
Rep. Wally Herger got his tie caught in the legislative sausage-grinder.
In the week before the Independence Day recess, Herger was one of 57 Republicans in the House of Representatives to vote against a bill that would prevent 10.6 percent cuts in doctors' fees for treating Medicare patients. The bill passed by a lopsided, veto-proof margin with most Republicans and all Democrats behind it.
But in a subsequent letter to doctors who complained about his vote, and in a town-hall meeting Tuesday in Redding, the congressman said he'd now support the bill. Why? Because it passed.
Herger said of the bill: "We needed something that would pass, and that (bill) would not pass" -- or so he thought. Never mind that one way to help a bill pass is to vote for it.
The congressman can be forgiven for feeling a little whiplash. According to press reports, the House's Republican leadership urged a vote against the Medicare bill -- which was fiercely opposed by the insurance industry but supported by doctors and hospitals -- and President Bush said he'd veto it. But two-thirds of Republican representatives supported it anyway.
After facing the white-coated wrath of doctors, Herger wished he'd joined the majority.
This is no profile in political courage, but at least Herger is belatedly acknowledging a real threat to our medical system.
The Medicare cuts -- 10.6 percent on top of other cuts in recent years -- would squeeze hospitals and doctors, leaving some physicians to simply stop seeing patients covered by Medicare (that is, everyone over 65).
And in California, the medical system is facing severe cuts in the already rock-bottom state payments through Medi-Cal, which covers the poor.
Those with private insurance won't escape the contagion. When doctors leave the state, when clinics close, when hospitals end unsustainable services, everybody suffers.
The ever-increasing costs of health care are putting a heavy burden on business and government alike. But unilaterally slashing what a doctor is paid to treat a patient -- with no regard to the expense of care or to the long-term consequences -- is no way to fix a broken system.
Sham death penalty isn't worth the price
California has the death penalty on paper, but in reality the legal procedures to carry out an execution are so timeconsuming that far more of the condemned die of old age than in the execution chamber.
Yet still the state spends about $137 million a year for a system that has executed only 14 inmates, including Shasta County multiple murderer Darrell Rich, since 1978. That puts the cost per execution north of $250 million.
And a state commission report released last week says it would take $100 million more for appellate lawyers and court resources to bring the pace of executions up to the national average while complying with the law.
Given their heinous crimes, the condemned have largely earned the death penalty.
But given the state’s budget deficit, it’s hard to justify spending hundreds of millions on a sham death-penalty system.
How about we end the Death Row charade and send the money saved to our beleaguered sheriff’s departments?




Posted by JustBob on July 6, 2008 at 6:36 a.m.
"Herger said of the bill: "We needed something that would pass, and that (bill) would not pass" -- or so he thought. Never mind that one way to help a bill pass is to vote for it."
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The stupidity of this man knows no limits! He voted against the bill because the President told him to. Stupid does as Stupid says. Time to replace him! Vote "Anyone but Herger"
Posted by runningfree on July 6, 2008 at 7:36 a.m.
Hergers time in office is in need of coming to an end. I am glad to see that people, maybe the new people moving in are able to see him for what he is.....perhaps longstanding citizens are finally taking off their blinders too.
Posted by Treebones on July 6, 2008 at 7:51 a.m.
"This is no profile in political courage".
What more needs to be said?
Well, maybe bringing up the notorious bankrupting Prescription Drug Plan and how it was written up and passed in the House. Mr. Herger was a part of that shameful action.
Posted by Doc on July 6, 2008 at 8:02 a.m.
Herger voted for the farm bill, one of the most unnecessary, pork-laden pieces of legislation to come out of this Nancy/Harry led congress.
I remember when the "good 'ol boys" in the Democrat movememt said they would change the spending habits (I remember when the "good 'ol boys" in the Republican movement said the same).
Just fits my continued point. Once they get inside the beltway, they need the green crack. More and more so they can go crazy. I wonder why they think they can spend OUR money better than we can. I have never met a person who is liberal or conservative (or somewhere inbetween) who cannot handle their financial affairs BETTER than our elected officials. Even the fools in the California legislative body continue to spend more than they have on projects that benefit the few (not the many) and continue to illegally spend funds on people who are not legally entitled to receive the benefits of OUR hard-earned money.
I support charities, I don't need the government to also do that for me.
Posted by caltest on July 6, 2008 at 8:05 a.m.
Herger does not support the majority of his constituency in the 2nd district. He supports the president and the lobbyist who $support him.
His voting record in washington is pathetic.
He has voted against;
min. wage
workers rights to organize
renewable energy
medicare
childrens health insurance-CHIP
mental health and additiction programs
Student loans-PELL
Accountably in government contracting
the list goes on and on.....
Herger must go.
Vote for change, vote for Jeff Morris in November.
Posted by john on July 6, 2008 at 9:45 a.m.
If you voted for this guy, you are plainly to dumb to breed.
If you did it twice, then nothing will help you, your brain has fallen and can't get up.
It finally settles the question of whether Wally is a rubber stamp representative and nothing more.
Rest assured, he is.
"George Bush made me do it."
Nuff said, it is time for Wally to go if he still thinks Bush has the country's best interest in mind.
It is tiime to give the new guy a shot.
Vote for Jeff Morris.
And you'd be just as big a fool to vote for John McCain who pulled exactly the same stunt with the GI bill he absolutely opposed on the grounds that we need stupid soldiers not educated ones, and now he talks about the GI bill 'we' passed in "support of the troops", as if he did a single thing to get it passed.
McCain actually didn't bother voting, which is actually an improvement over his dismal veterans voting record, and still wants to have it both ways.
Flip-flop. And mostly flop.
Posted by klamathknot on July 6, 2008 at 9:47 a.m.
There are four words to remember in November:
Waldo has gotta go
Waldo has gotta go
Waldo has gotta go
Real simple people - Jeff Morris in November.
Posted by Splendid on July 6, 2008 at 9:55 a.m.
The majority of his constituency is overwhelmingly conservative and very wary of progressive public programs like the minimum wage, medicare, CHIP, and educational subsidization. Whether you, personally, hold those views or not, you're talking nonsense.
Posted by mk on July 6, 2008 at 10:12 a.m.
I like how the liberals think Herger should be voted out because he voted with the wishes of the President, yet the Democrats that voted for the Iraq war were just simpletons that were tricked into voting the Presidents wishes.
I guess elected Republicans are smart enough to know better while elected Democrats are too stupid to be held accountable.
That's the gist of the liberal blathering anyway.
Posted by Treebones on July 6, 2008 at 10:33 a.m.
in response to mk
As a conservative, do you support Mr. Herger and the way he represents us? Do you think he could be doing a better job of it?
Are you defending Mr. Herger out of partisan ideology instead of principle?
Do you know anything about Jeff Morris? Is he a radical liberal or more middle of the road kind of guy?
Posted by NorCalHeathen3 on July 6, 2008 at 10:34 a.m.
in response to mk
mk - You idgit... it's not BECAUSE he voted how the President wanted... The problem lies in WHY Herger did it. He did it because George told him to, not because he thought it was a bad bill.
All those Democrats you cry about who voted to allow us into Iraq had the wool pulled over their eyes just like the rest of the population. 935 lies to get us into a bad war... The bulk of the lies were told in hopes of getting the votes he needed in Congress.
Why is that so hard for conservatards to figure out? Well... it's not... What is hard for conservatards is facing the truth when they don't like what it has to say. It's called denial, MK.
Posted by Studmonkey on July 6, 2008 at 10:40 a.m.
The difference between Waldo Herger and a carp? One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder and other one is a type of fish...
Waldo could burn down an orphans home and as long as he paid lip service to the conservative cause, the brainless, neomoronocoms in town would continue to vote for him.
You order Wally, you get Wally...
Posted by Doc on July 6, 2008 at 11:47 a.m.
in response to yogiman
Yogi, having spent 1/2 of my adult life in the military, I can assure you I am familiar with the government "social programs" you speak of.
I am not too sure I agree with your ascertion they are "much more efficient". I do agree with you there are many charities out there who are simply hucksters. I only give to those who are actually willing to prove to me what percentage of the $$ I give actually goes to the need I support and what goes to the "administrative" and other overhead expenses.
My basic rule-of-thumb is this: if the overhead is greater than 10% they don't get my money.
Posted by linus on July 6, 2008 at 1:17 p.m.
I remember reading some time back that Herger wanted to gain popularity and power within the GOP. Making financial contributions to the GOP and faithfully following strict party voting protocol may help him achieve his goals. Why should we be surprised by his positions. He and his most inner circle of supporters might well gain what they seek.
The real question to consider: Are his efforts serving the folks back home and/or they for the greater good of the Country? If your answer is no, then it's time to make a clean sweep and vote the incumbent out.
Posted by klamathknot on July 6, 2008 at 1:31 p.m.
To MK
While attending a meeting in Hayfork last week that Waldo was at regarding the fires I, along with about 30 other people, was dumbstruck when the IQ Giant opened his mouth. The Incident Commander was giving a briefing and explained that the Martin Mars was in service and had helped already on the Lime Complex fires. Waldo the IQ Giant opened his mouth and said: "It's like the Spruce Goose". Silence filled the room. You could feel the unease of everyone in the room. "Dude!". We all thought, "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!".
I am a registered Independent voter and I have had it with this mindless moron keeping the District 2 seat warm in DC. We need someone who can think like a grown adult and talk to us like adults. Waldo the Ignoramus should be sent back to his ranch so he can mend the fences and punch those doggies.
MK - if you care about your kids or grandkids or even the rest of us in District 2 vote JEFF MORRIS in November!
Posted by Splendid on July 6, 2008 at 2:24 p.m.
in response to yogiman
Pell Grants and federal student loans, of course.
It's pie-in-the-sky nonsense to think some Democrat from Weaverville will gain the Second District's seat, nevermind what my personal political persuasions are. Statements like, "It is quite troubling that Herger received about 50% more votes in the primary than all three Democratic candidates combined...." are laughable pieces of granola-crunching, Subaru-driving, I-Read-100-Years-of-Solitude-Once-So-I'm-An-Intellectual hauteur. The condescension involved in throwing your hands up at the fact that the region is overwhelmingly rural and conservative -that it would have the crassness to support the candidate that's most reflective of its general ideological bent- would be angering if it weren't so in vain. It would be the equivalent of me bringing my guns to Berkeley when I transfer there in the fall and then moaning to everyone I see about how un-gun-friendly the place is.
Don't get me started on the little 'now defunct ideology' piece of brain dead effluvium....
Posted by mosey1 on July 6, 2008 at 2:45 p.m.
I am sure all the trailer park republicans in this town will vote for this guy again.
Posted by Splendid on July 6, 2008 at 2:49 p.m.
in response to mosey1
See above.
Posted by mk on July 6, 2008 at 2:59 p.m.
Voting in someone more liberal than Congressman Herger is not going to make things better.
It doesn't bode well for the liberals when their leaders had the wool pulled over their eyes by what other liberals have labeled 'the dumbest President ever'.
'Vote for us, we're not smart enough to be as bad as the opposition' should not be this elections Democratic slogan.
I'm just saying......
Posted by NorCalHeathen3 on July 6, 2008 at 3:06 p.m.
in response to Splendid
Just so you are aware... citizens are perfectly welcome to own guns in Berkeley, San Francisco, Santa Cruz... and other liberal areas.
I lived in two out of three of those places, with my guns, and had no problems at all.
Oh... and calling it "pie-in-the-sky nonsense to think some Democrat from Weaverville will gain the Second District's seat" is a load of defeatist BS... nobody ever said Morris "will" win. Several have expressed hope that he could win, which is not "nonsense".
If everyone based their votes on what they think the odds of winning are, as Herger just did with the "why should I vote for it if Bushie-poo is going to veto it" line, we would be guaranteed many more years of Herger to come. Thankfully, most people vote the issues and their conscience... giving Morris at least a chance, however small, of winning.
It's time to boot Herger, the self serving piece of crap, out of Congress. He's no good for the Northstate.
Vote Jeff Morris for Congress in '08!
Posted by mosey1 on July 6, 2008 at 3:07 p.m.
mk,which trailer park do you live in?
Posted by mk on July 6, 2008 at 3:16 p.m.
in response to mosey1
The one near the bridge you live under.
Posted by Splendid on July 6, 2008 at 3:17 p.m.
in response to NorCalHeathen3
But I'm sure you didn't whinge to everyone within earshot about the predominant anti-gun climate. Because -oh my God!- you knew you were living in San Francisco and what it entailed. Wringing your hands for all to see at the conservative climate of the North State would be equally superfluous, even if valid.
Posted by Treebones on July 6, 2008 at 4:07 p.m.
in response to Splendid
Read the article (see above) and tell us we are represented well.
Posted by scootenat65 on July 6, 2008 at 5:33 p.m.
Yes Splendid 74% of the 2nd Congressional District are registered 'Republicans'. And unfortunately some of them - maybe even many of them - who vote will just put an x next to whose ever name is on the Republican line. But it could be that some will decide not to vote. And it could be some will actually think about what is important to them. Jobs for them and their children, the cost of health care, the declining dollar and the raising cost of living. The cost of the war in broken lives and money the country has to borrow resulting in a debt that is given to both Republicans and Democrats equally. They may be concerned that Wally voted for the fence along the boarder but wants to allow alien workers into this country to harvest our crops and do other labor cheaply. Some of the Republicans may think that Wally has not really done much to help them or their communities. And some of them might just vote for another candidate.
We all know about 'safe' districts but sometimes, just sometimes, they turn out to not be safe at all. It just takes shining a light on the activities of "our" representative.
Good luck in school - it sounds like you may be one of those thinking people.
Posted by Cosmo on July 6, 2008 at 5:35 p.m.
Wally is lucky, he lives in the "Sheep District"of Cullifornya. His re-election, is a shoe-in. Excuse me, but I have to go vomit.
Posted by mk on July 6, 2008 at 7:39 p.m.
You don't get it Kramer.
The only way to beat Congressman Herger is to be more conservative.
Now go wipe your chin.
Posted by Cosmo on July 6, 2008 at 10:44 p.m.
mk,
Thanks for caring, but how can anyone be more conservative, or stupid than Herger?
Posted by Cosmo on July 6, 2008 at 10:48 p.m.
mk,
Could you baaaaa for me one time? The sound of sheep, helps me get to sleep.
Posted by Doc on July 6, 2008 at 10:52 p.m.
I have been looking at Jeff Morris, have known his family for many years. Although he and I don't seem to see eye-to-eye on many of the issues, I see him as a very honest man who will likely represent us quite well.
Herger on the other hand, seems to do some rather strange things. I cannot think of any bills actually submitted by him, some that were cosponsored (maybe) that did much for us here in the North State. Further, he is not much for acting as a true conservative, nor has much to do with making LESS GOVERNMENT either.
I have not made up my mind, but I would rather choose someone I know to be honest and who will likely listen to the constituency rather than one who is comfortable in office going through the motions.
Posted by Splendid on July 6, 2008 at 11:25 p.m.
in response to Cosmo
There's this famous movie from the nineties that depicts a bunch of young Scottish men walking through a field. One makes a nasty remark about the English, to which another replies, "Everyone here hates the English! I don't hate the English; I just think they're wankers. WE, on the other hand, are a nation that was colonized by a bunch of wankers."
Find how this applies to your sheep district comment, and I'll give you a cookie.
Posted by Treebones on July 7, 2008 at 6:20 a.m.
in response to Splendid
Let's see, comparing those that were colonized through the use of force, and in turn passing judgement on the victims, to people voting for someone because he has an R behind his name? So you want to blame the victims for that also?
In the first instance, the majority of people don't have the physical ability to change their circumstances. In the other, the majority of people don't have the integrity to even see a need to change their circumstances.
Some of us continue to try though.
Posted by Splendid on July 7, 2008 at 9:01 a.m.
in response to Treebones
Hah, stop impressing us with your uncanny ability to interpret analogies.
Posted by Splendid on July 7, 2008 at 9:02 a.m.
Which is to say, the cookie is still up for grabs.
Posted by mk on July 7, 2008 at 9:08 a.m.
Change does not equate to better.
Don't tell me you're going to change something, tell me how the changes you plan are going to make things better.
Posted by john on July 7, 2008 at 10:31 a.m.
mk
maybe not, but when the boat has been wrecked by the captain, as in Bushco's case, any change is better than the status quo, which happens to suck.
So in this case, I'll make an an exception and say yes it does.
yogiman
It doesn't matter that ever more rightward leaning policies have failed spectacularly and have led to this current state of affairs, we simply aren't leaning far right enough, according to brilliant thinkers like mk, who is still stuck on stupid despite object lessons to the contrary.
Talk about a learning disability.
mk is a charter member of Bushco's 20% approval crew. He has so much energy invested in the village idiot that he can't change now.
Posted by mk on July 7, 2008 at 9:56 p.m.
Stop tossing up the most liberal Senator, by voting record, every four years.
Your socialist utopia doesn't exist, never will, never can.
This is Shangri la compared to the direction you neo-coms want to go.
John, explain to the 'slow' one that this is the country that allows more immigrants, legal and illegal, than the rest of the world combined.
Then explain why they want to come to such a screwed up place.
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